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	<title>Comments on: Tecnetico updates his iPhone 3G prediction for Puerto Rico (September)</title>
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		<title>By: Apple announces iPhone 3G; Puerto Rico not included -again- &#124; Morouxshi [dot] com</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple announces iPhone 3G; Puerto Rico not included -again- &#124; Morouxshi [dot] com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MacGadgetFreak</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGadgetFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well again, definetly PR will not have the iPhone 3G with Best Buy neither.  Best Buy announced that they will sale thye iPhone in theirs stores, except of course PR.  We should really sue Apple for discrimination against the US citizens of PR.  Best Buy sales Apple computers in PR and offers warranty on them.  So it&#039;s not a warranty issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well again, definetly PR will not have the iPhone 3G with Best Buy neither.  Best Buy announced that they will sale thye iPhone in theirs stores, except of course PR.  We should really sue Apple for discrimination against the US citizens of PR.  Best Buy sales Apple computers in PR and offers warranty on them.  So it&#8217;s not a warranty issue.</p>
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		<title>By: kako</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>kako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEOPLE!!!!!

It has nothing to do with warranty.   In all other places where the iphone is sold like in Mexico, there is no Appe store.

Also in PR we can buy other apple producs like Macs and ipod touch and have warranty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEOPLE!!!!!</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with warranty.   In all other places where the iphone is sold like in Mexico, there is no Appe store.</p>
<p>Also in PR we can buy other apple producs like Macs and ipod touch and have warranty.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some years ago, there was a similar problem.  Which was solved under discrimation by a group of people from Puerto Rico.  All they did was sue in a class action in the Federal Court about how US Citizens from Puerto Rico were discriminated and they won.  The problem was Microsoft that considered Puerto Rico International.  We should consider doing the same with apple, that considers Puerto Rico Domestic or International at their discretion.  Strongly we should consider a class action suit against Apple and Steve Jobs, Day one you will see the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some years ago, there was a similar problem.  Which was solved under discrimation by a group of people from Puerto Rico.  All they did was sue in a class action in the Federal Court about how US Citizens from Puerto Rico were discriminated and they won.  The problem was Microsoft that considered Puerto Rico International.  We should consider doing the same with apple, that considers Puerto Rico Domestic or International at their discretion.  Strongly we should consider a class action suit against Apple and Steve Jobs, Day one you will see the results.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhonator</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to update- My iPhone shipped Friday, and I&#039;m going to the ATT store in Orlando to pick it up tomorrow with my 787 phone number that I ported from crappy Centennial &#039;bout three years ago...

I agree with everybody here that what&#039;s happening is not fair; I should just be able to walk in an ATT store in PR and just buy the damn thing; however, the truth is that Apple and ATT are not discriminating against Puerto Rico or its people. Rather, blame the differences in their accounting practices and infrastructure. Apple has no business presence in PR; It handles PR business through its latin american operations channel that has distributors such as Modernica. AppleCare agreements are not usable in PR. Also, opening Apple Stores in PR would mean that Apple would compete directly with its LA channel distributors who would not take kindly to that. ATT, on the other hand, properly recognizes PR as a US Territory and as such recognizes sales and revenue properly, but if something goes wrong with your phone, who will support you? ATT relies on Apple for hardware support. So it&#039;s a sucky Catch-22 situation that will not get resolved any time soon.

My advice:Stop listening to idiots like Wilton Vargas (Mr. Holier-Than-Thou Tecnetico, tech expert wannabe) and &quot;Obsessed iphone 3g researcher on diapers&quot;. Iphone 3g will NOT be sold in PR anytime soon. If you are lucky enough to have family in the states, have them buy you one (change your billing address temporarily and ask them to pay with a debit/credit card with US zip code, and you will get it in no time. Good luck to you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to update- My iPhone shipped Friday, and I&#8217;m going to the ATT store in Orlando to pick it up tomorrow with my 787 phone number that I ported from crappy Centennial &#8217;bout three years ago&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with everybody here that what&#8217;s happening is not fair; I should just be able to walk in an ATT store in PR and just buy the damn thing; however, the truth is that Apple and ATT are not discriminating against Puerto Rico or its people. Rather, blame the differences in their accounting practices and infrastructure. Apple has no business presence in PR; It handles PR business through its latin american operations channel that has distributors such as Modernica. AppleCare agreements are not usable in PR. Also, opening Apple Stores in PR would mean that Apple would compete directly with its LA channel distributors who would not take kindly to that. ATT, on the other hand, properly recognizes PR as a US Territory and as such recognizes sales and revenue properly, but if something goes wrong with your phone, who will support you? ATT relies on Apple for hardware support. So it&#8217;s a sucky Catch-22 situation that will not get resolved any time soon.</p>
<p>My advice:Stop listening to idiots like Wilton Vargas (Mr. Holier-Than-Thou Tecnetico, tech expert wannabe) and &#8220;Obsessed iphone 3g researcher on diapers&#8221;. Iphone 3g will NOT be sold in PR anytime soon. If you are lucky enough to have family in the states, have them buy you one (change your billing address temporarily and ask them to pay with a debit/credit card with US zip code, and you will get it in no time. Good luck to you all!</p>
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		<title>By: MacGadgetFreak</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGadgetFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems that my comment that AT&amp;T discriminate with the Puertorricans because we we are crazy about getting things &quot;the easy or free way&quot; received the same treatment that we receive from people that sterotype the average of the decent people that lives in this 2 1/2 World (almost 3 world) island. Come on wake up! The negative for not providing a simple item like a phone is pure and simple discrimination.  Business rules are made to protect the distributer and AT&amp;T has all the odds to win. The people in Ireland or Hong Kong (to name a place) and soon in Botwana have better comercial rules than we??? Let&#039;s take them to court in a Class Suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that my comment that AT&amp;T discriminate with the Puertorricans because we we are crazy about getting things &#8220;the easy or free way&#8221; received the same treatment that we receive from people that sterotype the average of the decent people that lives in this 2 1/2 World (almost 3 world) island. Come on wake up! The negative for not providing a simple item like a phone is pure and simple discrimination.  Business rules are made to protect the distributer and AT&amp;T has all the odds to win. The people in Ireland or Hong Kong (to name a place) and soon in Botwana have better comercial rules than we??? Let&#8217;s take them to court in a Class Suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kako</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Kako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple is ridiculous.

Why here in Puerto Rico we can buy the iPod Touch but not the iPhone?

Also we can Buy any ATT Phone exept the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Why here in Puerto Rico we can buy the iPod Touch but not the iPhone?</p>
<p>Also we can Buy any ATT Phone exept the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer S.</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like i said the triple s guy was just lying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like i said the triple s guy was just lying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer S.</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and to add a little advance here, there will be no iphone 3g tomorrow. Sorry but that is how it it. I did not haver to do anything just wait saw no news about tomorrow i wa son the mall and just asked by curiosity. They dont have any idea = no iphone 3g probably the triple s guys  was lying if not true then comment back with details...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and to add a little advance here, there will be no iphone 3g tomorrow. Sorry but that is how it it. I did not haver to do anything just wait saw no news about tomorrow i wa son the mall and just asked by curiosity. They dont have any idea = no iphone 3g probably the triple s guys  was lying if not true then comment back with details&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: iPhonator</title>
		<link>http://feli.pe/2008/07/11/tecnetico-updates-his-iphone-3g-prediction-for-puerto-rico-september/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short and sweet-

1) Wilton Vargas is an egotistical fool. I sent him an email way before July 11 telling him that the phone would NOT be for sale on July 11 nor anytime soon. He did not extend me the courtesy of a reply.  Now he posts an editorial, and rather than apologize for his screw up (in his original article he was very sure of his &quot;officially confirmed&quot; speculations) he offers a big public display of ego stroking, along with a snippet of more inane drivel. This guy&#039;s a nobody wanna-be.

2) PR AT&amp;T employees HAVE taken the iPhone 3G training. They DO NOT know if/when he phone will be for sale.

However, not all is bad news, provided you are 1) an existing ATT wireless customer and 2) you have a billing address anywhere in the US (&#039;xcept PR of course. Sucks to be us.). if you do, you can walk into any ATT store and get your iPhone 3G with your existing 787/939 area code. I went to a store in FL yesterday and did the process in about 10 minutes. ATT is doing what they call &quot;Direct Fullfillment&quot;, or in simple language &quot;pay the phone upfront now, we&#039;ll order it four you, and we&#039;ll call you within 10-21 days when it gets here so you can come get it&quot;. No changes to your existing plan are necessary, you will just add the $30/monthly Unlimited data/Web iphone option and one of the messaging packages (they start at $5/200msgs and go up from there) and you&#039;re done.

I did this yesterday in a ATT store in FL and have my order number and all paperwork. Your mileage may vary. I don&#039;t know about Apple Stores, New customers, or anything other than what I am posting here, so good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short and sweet-</p>
<p>1) Wilton Vargas is an egotistical fool. I sent him an email way before July 11 telling him that the phone would NOT be for sale on July 11 nor anytime soon. He did not extend me the courtesy of a reply.  Now he posts an editorial, and rather than apologize for his screw up (in his original article he was very sure of his &#8220;officially confirmed&#8221; speculations) he offers a big public display of ego stroking, along with a snippet of more inane drivel. This guy&#8217;s a nobody wanna-be.</p>
<p>2) PR AT&amp;T employees HAVE taken the iPhone 3G training. They DO NOT know if/when he phone will be for sale.</p>
<p>However, not all is bad news, provided you are 1) an existing ATT wireless customer and 2) you have a billing address anywhere in the US (&#8216;xcept PR of course. Sucks to be us.). if you do, you can walk into any ATT store and get your iPhone 3G with your existing 787/939 area code. I went to a store in FL yesterday and did the process in about 10 minutes. ATT is doing what they call &#8220;Direct Fullfillment&#8221;, or in simple language &#8220;pay the phone upfront now, we&#8217;ll order it four you, and we&#8217;ll call you within 10-21 days when it gets here so you can come get it&#8221;. No changes to your existing plan are necessary, you will just add the $30/monthly Unlimited data/Web iphone option and one of the messaging packages (they start at $5/200msgs and go up from there) and you&#8217;re done.</p>
<p>I did this yesterday in a ATT store in FL and have my order number and all paperwork. Your mileage may vary. I don&#8217;t know about Apple Stores, New customers, or anything other than what I am posting here, so good luck!</p>
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